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It worked, but with some tweaking (using 2 different exports – the CSV and the TAB-del to get the ratings and reviews – and modifying the headers based on the GR template) and got most of the books up. LT may want to act like this is really not that important, but I beg to differ. After stumbling upon this article, I’m realizing that Good Reads may be a better choice for patrons who simply want to keep a list of what they’ve read and what they want to read. For myself, I try to avoid the social networking and yes I prefer LT for that. Both sites allow you to import an existing list, if you have one, via a file or webpage.
Just know that if you’re casually browsing the book conversations, at GR you’re going to see more WHO IS HOTTER EDWARD OR HARRY, whereas at LT it’s going to be more brainy/hot topic-oriented conversation. I was interested in using Library Thing after hearing about it at a library conference; however, I was turned off by the price tag.
But tell me – why do people hate the green button? Textile. Probably as a consequence of the differences outlined above, LibraryThing’s smaller population is more serious about books. For example, for me, I set it up to link to my local library and to paperbackswap. Thanks for stopping by!
It is fun to explore other people’s book collections, see library similarities and see the trends and recommendations that so much data produce. It annoys me because you have to be very precise as to the timing of when you float your cursor over it to make the menu appear, and it used to be easier. I’m not crazy about the Amazon takeover of GoodReads either, but it’s still a much better site, at least for my needs. While I would LOVE to sign up for LibraryThing, I’ve tried a few times, and I’ve never gotten any email or anything back from them, so I tried a different email address and got no activation email or anything, then I tried contacting the site, emailing people, and nothing back, so I went with GoodReads, and yes, I had made sure all my email settings were appropriate and checked my spam folders as well and even adding email addresses as contacts, it didn’t work. However, based on what I read here and with other recommendations, I will trial using both LibraryThing and GoodReads. Based on this post, I think I’ll give it a try. This week, we’ll consider how to add books to your library, the book recommendation functions, stats, the user interfaces, and discussion/groups. You have to rate at least 20 books in order to get recommendations (similar to how Netflix recommendations work).
A really helpful comparison. My initial impression of Goodreads, just based on looking at a handful of books, was that it had a lot more reviews than LibraryThing. Thank you for your comments. It SEEMS like GR has more YA conversations happening, which might have something to do with the “Facebook” ness of its interface- it draws younger readers. I hereby back up my anecdotal ‘feeling’ with data – I chose the first book my eyes fell on (The Blind Assassin) and found that on LibraryThing 5350 people have entered the book in their ‘library’, 1328 of whom have given it a star rating, and 79 of whom have entered a review. Goodreads user here; I have no experience with LibraryThing. ( Log Out / I feel the same way about “labels” in GMail. Since I never did figure out that answer to my original question – I thought I would post it here.
Someone tell Yahoo that I’m a married man! Even so, LibraryThing members have more than twice as many books per member as Goodreads does. Its customizable home page, recently revamped, gives pride of place to a search-box that searches your own library of books. If you’re cataloguing for insurance purposes, those extra steps on Goodreads can be a deal-breaker. I’m not sure if they’ll always be free, or if GoodReads is ad-supported… but part of me likes LibraryThing and wants to support it. I LOVE that it shows you all the series in your library AND whether or not your series is “complete.” Other notable things on the stats page: • Options to look at books based on events within them, characters, places.
Goodreads– The ease-of-use of Goodreads’ interface is its real strength. Hi Tim! There’s no way I could find to see info about your books’ original languages, or any stats about pub dates of books. I know that both sites have group discussion features that will allow this, but does one site have any advantages over another for this book club purpose? So far with GoodReads, I haven’t been disappointed. Amanda Nelson Aug 7, 2012 This is a continuation of last week’s post, Goodreads v. LibraryThing: Part One, which covered adding books to your library, book recommendations, stats, user interfaces, and discussion/groups. If your book has an author, a translator, an editor and an illustrator, you can enter all their names and label the rôle of each accordingly[*]. Goodreads has a clear advantage here, because most of the people I know who are on a social reading site are on Goodreads.
I’ve noted the most popular groups below to give you an idea of what I mean. Thank you for all the great information here about both sites. You can also click directly into the review to make any edits.
“Tagging.” Yeah. Thanks, Felicity, for the comparison. More users on Goodreads means there are more people to talk to, but it does seem like the types of conversations going on are different. That’s just an example. Essentially, I’m to find a Web 2.0 tool that I will use in my professional life. LibraryThing has a great book-adding interface that allows you to type the tags once for one group of book-adds and integrates a barcode scanner seamlessly. I don’t see a clear cut winner, so I’ll have to use both. I didn’t mean to imply that LT is unresponsive, just that I’ve noticed a lot of GR responsiveness of late.
I found your site while trying to figure out an aspect of LibrayThing that I don’t understand.
Because it’s a layer on Amazon, if Amazon doesn’t have the book, you’re out of luck. For instance, my library (which, to be fair, includes books on my “to-read” shelf as well as those I’ve read and am currently reading), if stacked book upon book, would be slightly taller than the Great Pyramid, slightly shorter than the Washington Monument. So, how do the two sites compare? Character and event searches work the same way. I would feel a little caddish using Goodreads’s site with AdBlock Plus enabled, since their revenue comes from ads and if I like the site well enough to use it, I don’t want to foil their business model. This post pretty much summarized my own feelings about what it’s been.
Our site-related groups are very active, and we rely on them a lot. Hey, this is Tim, the founder of LibraryThing. Access to the LibraryThing site through my phone allows me to log in, post, view and edit books and — wonder of wonders — add books through a handy little LT scanner app that utilizes my phone’s camera. Unlike Goodreads, which is committed to a categorization system called ‘shelves’, LibraryThing uses tagging. Re: Goodreads is easier: Anyway, I verify the data on all of my books; it’s all correct.
Now I know which site to use. Only “librarians” can edit book data, and whetever changes they make, everyone gets.) If they can’t cope fully and completely with librarything data, they shouldn’t say they support it! Mobile site. LibraryThing, on the other hand (“A home for your books…A community of book lovers”) emphasizes its cataloging quality and its user community. Goodreads has “read,” “currently reading,” and “to-read” shelves, whereas LibraryThing has “to-read” and “currently reading” collections (everything else is, by default, “read”). Would it kill them to include in on LT too?
I also appreciate the chance to get the occasional early review copy (I’ve gotten one or two from Goodreads over the past six years, and at least four from LT over the past year), and the serendipity of connecting with authors (more than once, authors on Goodreads have contacted me after I’ve written a review of their book: one ended up attending a book club meeting, and another gave a presentation at the library). And best, of all, you can add all the books you want, and never pay a dime. What are the benefits/drawbacks of each? See the import page, down at the bottom. I get very few and/or very stupid ones. While I’m not a GR expert, I do often read the Feedback fora and try out new features, and I wasn’t aware of it. Period. Winner: Goodreads stats page is prettier and more graphics-heavy, but LT’s is ultimately easier to use and has much more information. For the social aspects (accessing my friends’ opinions when I need them) the population difference makes Goodreads the victor – vast mobs of my acquaintances signed up for Goodreads (many of them, strangers to each other, at exactly the same time, in fact.) I really like your analysis.
(A huge plus!) Have a listen to our mystery/thriller podcast, Read or Dead. I especially like the reading status update feature here, though I'm not sure if LibraryThing has that now; it didn't have one back in the early days. Check out my LibraryThing profile and collection here.
Yes, it IS that important. Believe me when I say that as much as I like LT over GoodReads, I am seriously considering switching simply because GoodReads has an excellent iPhone app, which is 10 times more useful than LT’s so-called “mobile” site. In terms of function, then, the sites aren’t all that different. They mean a lot to you. Copyright © 2017 HOWEVER. Re: Good job! Goodreads is better for showing me my friends’ opinions on books, and LibraryThing is lightyears better for capturing data on my library. As far as I can tell, Goodreads only uses Amazon as a data source. For the rest, I’ll pay the lifetime membership when I’ll reach the 200 books ;). I wrote to GR about this. *Updates, 2/16/2009: Goodreads has added multi-author and customizable role support to their book data, although it is not as integrated and easy as LibraryThing’s. The social exchange Goodreads emphasizes is that of opinions, and therefore there are a lot more reviews on Goodreads in general, even if there aren’t any from your friends on a particular book. There are some limits they would have trouble shedding – they are really wed to the ‘shelf’ model for example, too wedded I think to swap it for tags, and adding tags on top of shelves would be klugey and make it more confusing for new users. Yes, you CAN do everything…by going to the LT regular site, but it’s such a chore on a mobile phone that I don’t go there unless I absolutely have to, then I’m just frustrated, and usually just give up before I’ve done what I wanted to do. On Goodreads, it’s harder to determine exact numbers but I believe 9173 people have entered it, 7272 have given a star rating, and about 700 have entered at least a one-word review. I think something like 35% have zero! It’s versatile, and allows me to capture all the data I might ever want about my book collection and reading, the first time it comes up. Thanks so much! Thanks for such an engaging and helpful conversation!
Once I uploaded a file to GR, I was able to export it and then upload it to the LT because GR added the ISBN numbers. Unfortunately, I have never tried LibraryThing out, but I have been a long-time user of Goodreads and I love it.
I was also looking at the comparison between the two sites. Thank you so much, especially Felicity and Tim, for this article and the subsequent posts answering questions. It reminds me to go read instead of messing with the internet. NERDGASM. For me, LibraryThing is the clear winner. Current numbers of users at each site can be viewed by clicking through the links in the relevant paragraph above.
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